[Important] Legion Emblem

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[Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Titus Flavius Severus » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:24 pm

Salvete,

As we begin the project of creating a legion of the Roman Republic, our community of historical reenactment made an important decision, namely, it was decided to give everyone to touch the creation and development of this project, to stand at its sources, to prove themselves for the benefit of others and for the common good.

This topic will be the first in a series of topics within which, through discussions, fateful decisions will be made that will determine the prospects for the development of the project, the shape and future of the Legion. It is important to understand that this project is not a private matter of a narrow group of experienced reenactors, but a project that anyone can join who is willing to work selflessly to achieve this goal. Everyone can put the feasible mite into the common cause, and influence the development of the project.

Let's start with the fact that in this topic, it is proposed to discuss one of the most important attributes of any legion - the emblem.

As for the emblem, the Leg. XI Cl. P. F. gives a wide field of possibilities for choice, since its emblem is not known from the beginning, in view of which, there is a wide scope for creativity, discussions and reasoned variations.

The discussion of the emblem begins at this point. Anyone can participate in the discussion, after which a vote will take place, in which only the members of the legion can take part. Thus, it is necessary to understand that only the members of this community can decide the fate of the community.

P.S. Their variant of the emblem Legion's "veterans" will presented later, that would give an opportunity to develop the discussion.

N.B. Not only reasoned proposals are welcomed, but also proposals, supported graphically.
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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Tiberius Iulius Nerva » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:00 am

I am so glad that we have this legion so I sended 10 denarii :D
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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Gaius Cominius Laenas » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:09 am

I'm working on a proposal right now.

This is a great Collegium and much needed!
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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Titus Flavius Severus » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:18 pm

Severus sal.

Tiberius Iulius Nerva wrote:I am so glad that we have this legion so I sended 10 denarii


Yes, we saw (= Thank you for your help, join the work, after all, the main wealth is people - active participants, driven by enthusiasm and lively interest, and money - coming and going (=

Gaius Cominius Laenas wrote:This is a great Collegium and much needed!


We are glad to hear it! Thank you! (=

Gaius Cominius Laenas wrote:I'm working on a proposal right now.


It's wonderful, I'm glad that you got to work, I'm looking forward to an excellent exchange of views and friendly competition, which will certainly unfold for someone whose emblem will flaunt on the standard of the Legio!
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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Aula Flavia Philippa » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:52 pm

At the request of the head of our military-historical club, I prepared a draft emblem of the 11th Legion.

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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Titus Flavius Severus » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:30 pm

Спасибо Филиппа (=

As Philippа has already said, we propose exactly this version of the emblem. You can reasonably ask: "Why?". The thing is, as it was already noted before, we did not get information about exactly what was the legion's emblem, in connection with which, we have a certain scope for creativity. However, it should be noted that all variants of the emblems should be somehow and somehow reinforced. In this case, our rationale for this emblem is as follows:

There is an opinion that the legion at the initial stage of its life was formed from sailors, naval teams. Thus, it seems reasonable that unlike legions, which were formed from "land" recruits,they should somehow express their naval traditions, even turning into infantry. That is why our emblem depicts Neptune, the lord of the seas, holding a trident in his hands, as a symbol of his power, and also holding a fish or a dolphin, which again indicates a connection with the sea.

This emblem is good from all sides, firstly, it displays the history of those soldiers who left the sea and began to serve on the land; secondly, the pagan deity indicates a connection with the СDR and ancient polytheism; thirdly, being generally traditional, this emblem is original , and emphasizes the uniqueness of our legion.
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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Paullus Aemilius Gallus » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:59 am

According to the numismatics, Neptune is very likely the emblem of the Legio XI.
(Please note that Neptune is holding a dolphin not a duck or whale).

If I may, I would suggest you to consider the trident as another option for the emblem. You would have all the symbolism you want (origin of the legion, deity and uniqueness) but also a better visibility/perception. Graphically, the trident would be stronger. I mean, it would much more identifiable (on a photo or on the battlefield).
It would be also easier for the reenactors to reproduce on a shield.
Just an opinion.

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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Quintus Vergilius Crassus » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:31 pm

Gallus, good work! Nice to see person interested in legion. And I very agree with you, think need to ask our painter to paint a dolphin in image. Good comment Gallus!
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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Marca Marcia » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:48 pm

It must have been that Philip was upset that she had not been chosen anywhere, so she does not alter the picture. In a week, I'll try to complete the drawing, let's see what happens.
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Re: [Important] Legion Emblem

Postby Aula Flavia Philippa » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:04 am

Я не "Philip", я - Филиппа, Леся, зачем ты меня к парням отнесла? :lol: Я по работе забегалась, некогда не было мне. Я все сделаю сама. Нашла пару исходников, может и второй вариант эмблемы сделаю.
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