Aula Flavia Philippa wrote:Quintus Iulius Symphorianus, you are wrong, objectively speaking, you should not have interfered in this discussion until you understood the basic principles of the work of the institutions of the Republic.In this your phrase clearly shows that you do not understand what you criticize, but continue to criticize
Right, right. Do go on.
If you had bothered to learn more about the Republic, you would have learned that there have long been collegia performing state functions, here's one for example: http://romanrepublic.org/civitas/joint_ ... reasury/39
Although, following your words, you are a fundamental opponent of the foundations of this Republic. Do you know why? The fact is that in the future two collegia should be created: the Pontifex Collegium and the Augur Collegium. As in ancient Rome, these colleges will be the same foundations of the state, and will obey the same law on collegia. But these collegia, especially the Collegium of the Pontiffs, will receive exclusive powers as an organ of the state. Will you oppose them?
If I had bothered to learn more about the Republic? How adorable. In the meantime I feed the need to point out that the Collegium Pontificum and Collegium Augurum are -- unlike the Legio -- intrinsic to the Republic itself. Reestablishing those particular collegia are no small part of why the Republic was founded in the first place; as can be evidenced by a simple reading of the Declaration which birthed the Republic. If the Republic were similarly predicated upon the establishment of a functioning reenactment legion then things would be different. I would absolutely support a version of the Lex Flavia. But... it isn't. The Legio is not an integral, intrinsic part of the Republic and was never designed to be; therefore it doesn't get cut the same slack.
With this phrase you showed that you continue to escalate the conflict. From the example of the Seneca quaestor, you did not draw any conclusions.
You say so, because you do not know the current situation. However, smart people would not throw such words and judgments. Firstly, you should go to the section of collegia and see how many people are in the 11th Legion, then you should have looked at how many people are in other collegia. It would be nice to remember that if you going to an elected office, you should be interested in the opinion of the people, and you in your own words show disrespect to a significant number of voters - people from the 11th Legion. But in addition to the 11th Legion, there is also the Factio Russata, this is in general the most active political force of the Republic. At the beginning of your political career, you do not need to set yourself against a significant part of the people, it's wrong. If you want to defend your point of view, do it, it's laudable, but such attacks as 'gang of extortionists' are unacceptable. We already had an incident with Camillus, but apparently this has taught no one anything
You're right. Absolutely correct. You are the only extortionist thus far and it was very unfair of me to assume that you spoke for the entire Legio when you shamelessly threatened the Republic. So I apologise for that to all the honourable members of the Legio; it was a mistake on my part. That having been said, let us briefly assume that you are indeed speaking for the entire Legio; and that it is the position of the Legio that if the Lex Flavia is not passed then you all will withdraw en masse from the life of the Republic. If that were the case I would have only one reply:
Good riddance.
I do not care how large the Legio, the Factio, or any other organisation within the Republic is. If a group within the Republic thinks it can force the passage of legislation through threats and coercion then I would rather see every man jack of them expelled from the Republic. There should be absolutely no toleration for the kind of extortionate threat that you leveled against the Comitia and that is certainly something I will stake a political career upon. So I assume that you are only speaking for yourself and that Flavius Severus will soon disavow your despicable(!) tactics and if that is the case I will continue to regard every member of the Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis as a friend, ally, and fellow Roman. But if it is in fact the will of the Legio to try to leverage its numbers and participation to disrupt the democratic processes of the state then I will be the first to call for its forcible disbandment.