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Bylaws of the Collegium

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Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Sat May 13, 2017 5:24 pm

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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Gaius Curtius Philo » Sat May 13, 2017 6:48 pm

I agree that the official version be in latin, but I believe if we have an English translation it should be also published and stickied in this forum. Even though we might not like to be over beurocratic, not knowing the Rules of an organization is not good. We need to know them so there is no confusion. But I agree that the official version, to appear on the RR website in the list of Collegia, should be in latin.

I also am in favor to the edits you propose. And by the Bylaws of the RR there must also be added a means by which someone can ask for a second judgement (maybe by an aedile?) in case of expulsion.

Might also be interesting to have a mechanism to permit sub groups to form inside the CPhil. For example if we ever have a significant Stoic group they could be able to form a Schola inside our Collegium and organize themselves independently for classes and debates. Just a thought.
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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Lucia Horatia Adamas » Sun May 14, 2017 8:29 pm



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Raptim…mihi obsonatum exeundum'st inter pluvias fortissimas.

I think we can have both Latin and English versions…if the Latinists can spare the time. The name definitely should be changed as it, like that of the Latin group, is very bad Latin.

The section about having a degree in philosophy is overkill. Philosophy is part of any degree in classics, and possibly of those in other fields as well. Isn't reading parts of the works of Plato, Aristotle, and the Pre-Sokratics (plus Lucretius and relevant portions of the Ciceronian corpus) in the original language enough to be able to comment on them? I agree that this should go.

The terms 'dominus' and 'domina,' which some modern Latinists use for 'Mr.' and 'Mrs.,' really mean 'boss.' They are therefore rather offensive as titles for the head of a cultural group. 'Dominus' is Church Latin for God…none of us is at that level. ;-)

One instance of harassment or Sulla / Caesar-like insults should merit a warning at the very least, and more intense action if repeated. Good sense would prevent the likes of pornography, insults to various religions, etc., etc., but some have to be reminded (often forcefully) that these are not appropriate.

Perhaps more later…


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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Mon May 15, 2017 5:36 pm

Salvete!
Since the intercessio of Consul Curio revoked the edictum praeturae that instated me as co-leader of the collegium, I have to step down as magister.
We have to wait for the decision of our sole magister Cispius Laevus on how to proceed. Maybe he calls for elections or he will take charge of the change of the bylaws himself.
I am sorry to bother you all with so many administrative issues and hope we can focus on solely philosophical matters soon.
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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Tue May 16, 2017 12:11 pm

While the current situation in the collegia is a little bit unclear to say the least, it does not need to stop us working on the bylaws.
The Collegia Latina has written a nice Latin version of their bylaws. Picking up the idea of a template for bylaws as suggested by Laenas, I think we could just take their professionally written bylaws and change them for our needs.
Unfortunately they have beaten us in being the first collegium with Latin bylaws.
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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Publius Sextius Laevus » Tue May 16, 2017 1:15 pm

Salve Lupus,

I think that what is being worked out in the Latin Collegium would work with a name change for any academic collegii. I would propose that we common up with what is being completed there. There are a few parts of our proposed bylaws that I have proposed to Seneca to be added to theirs.

By the way, Lupus, why are you not a member of the Latin Collegium?

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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Tue May 16, 2017 10:04 pm

Salve Sexti Laeve!
Okay, I have applied. It is good to see thee two collegia working together.
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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Lucia Horatia Adamas » Tue May 16, 2017 10:35 pm



L. Horatia Adamas C. Florio Lupo omnibusque S.P.D.

Although I did not receive a copy of the digest today, I have gotten notices about topics I am following…and your application to the Collegium Latinum, which I approved. Glad to see you among the fautores linguæ Latinæ.

Obiter, better Latin is 'edictum prætorium.'

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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Wed May 17, 2017 2:01 am

Plurimas gratias tibi pro approbatione, Horatia Adamas!

I also appreciate the correction regarding the "edictum praetorium". We should make it a habit to correct mistakes, when we see them. This is the only way how we can learn something new.
In this case I was aware that "edictum praeturae" sounded awkward. I just used the word because it was how Praetor Cispius Laevus called it officially, when he announced it.

BTW does the title of a magistrate come before or after the name? "Praetor Cispius Laevus" or "Cispius Laevus Praetor"? In inscriptions it is after, but is it also true when referring to someone in normal speech?
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Re: Bylaws of the Collegium

Postby Gaius Curtius Philo » Wed May 17, 2017 2:14 am

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