Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

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Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Caeso Cispius Laevus » Wed May 10, 2017 3:55 am

One candidate for co-leader came forward to head the Collegium Philosophiae. Therefore...

I. The leadership of the Collegium is transferred to prior leader K. Cispius Laevus and the sole volunteer C. Florius Lupus.

II. This edict is effective immediately and issued on VI Id. Mai. L. Curtio L. Aurelio cos.


As a co-leader of this very active Collegium, I hope we can immediately replace our defective bylaws and work towards growing this important group. I look forward to working with one of the founders of the Republic towards this goal! I thank him for this dedication towards the Collegium Philosophiae.
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Wed May 10, 2017 12:35 pm

Gratias magistratis ago. I appreciate their effort to make my candidacy possible in spite of the formal difficulties.
It was not quite an example of democratic values that we could not hold elections due to the lack of a second candidate. But I will accept my task to maintain the collegium and work together with my co-leader Laevus to make this collegium succesful.
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Gaius Curtius Philo » Sun May 14, 2017 6:28 pm

By order of CONSUL L. Aurelius Curio, this Edictum is vetoed in compliance with the Edictum Censorium of T. Flavius Severus Censor (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1967).

If any collegia wish to have any edict issued to help them sort out their bylaws problems, please contact Consul Curio or myself.
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Mon May 15, 2017 10:03 am

Salve Philo!
What exactly does this mean now? Will we hold elections in the collegium now or will we wait until regular elections are due in December and Cispius Laevus continues as sole leader of the collegium?
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Gaius Curtius Philo » Mon May 15, 2017 3:59 pm

Gaius Florius Lupus wrote:Salve Philo!
What exactly does this mean now? Will we hold elections in the collegium now or will we wait until regular elections are due in December and Cispius Laevus continues as sole leader of the collegium?
Vale!


If Praetor Laevus is leader of the collegium he can make an edict specific to here as he sees fit. We just are no longer going to meddle.in collegia without the official request of their leaderships, so we vetoed all edicts till now to start afresh in that regard. Edicts will be specific to the collegia that request assistance and no longer will encapsulate other collegia.
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Gaius Florius Lupus » Mon May 15, 2017 5:55 pm

So I assume that I am removed as co-leader until Magister Cispius Laevus issues another edict as leader of the collegium. The last one was vetoed, since he issued it as Praetor.
Let us wait for his decision then!
I fully approve of the intercessio, even if it works against me in this particular case. The non-interference of the magistrati into the collegia is an important principle of our Republic, which has been restored by Consul Curio's intercessio. This is how a republic works. One has to support an edictum , if it is right in principle, even if it may turn against oneself in a particular case. The importance of the principle outweighs personal interests.
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Caeso Cispius Laevus » Mon May 15, 2017 10:14 pm

Gaius Florius Lupus wrote:So I assume that I am removed as co-leader until Magister Cispius Laevus issues another edict as leader of the collegium. The last one was vetoed, since he issued it as Praetor.
Let us wait for his decision then!
I fully approve of the intercessio, even if it works against me in this particular case. The non-interference of the magistrati into the collegia is an important principle of our Republic, which has been restored by Consul Curio's intercessio. This is how a republic works. One has to support an edictum , if it is right in principle, even if it may turn against oneself in a particular case. The importance of the principle outweighs personal interests.
Vale!



Salve,

I have no idea what Consul Curio is doing. I hope he has some sort of special plan yet to be revealed...

I was elected as a co-leader of this collegium. I believe the veto of Consul Philo's edict removes the validity of my election.

This collegium has no leader because of the veto from Consul Curio.

If there is any dispute in this then I formally resign as leader of the Collegium Philosophiae.

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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Gaius Curtius Philo » Mon May 15, 2017 10:40 pm

You were elected to your post, that does not depend on the existance of an Edict. You may resign if yoy wish, that is this collegium's internal affair, but you ARE its legitimate leader by election.

If you do resign though, then the procedures of this collegium should be followed in this case and new elections be made in the manner specified by the bylaws.
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Caeso Cispius Laevus » Mon May 15, 2017 11:03 pm

Gaius Curtius Philo wrote:You were elected to your post, that does not depend on the existance of an Edict. You may resign if yoy wish, that is this collegium's internal affair, but you ARE its legitimate leader by election.

If you do resign though, then the procedures of this collegium should be followed in this case and new elections be made in the manner specified by the bylaws.



Sal.

I was elected as "co-leader".

If forced to be a solitary leader I resign. I feel this is illegal considering my election as co-leader and against my wishes.
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Re: Edictum Praeturae: Leadership of the Collegium Philosophiae

Postby Gaius Curtius Philo » Mon May 15, 2017 11:15 pm

Caeso Cispius Laevus wrote:
Gaius Curtius Philo wrote:You were elected to your post, that does not depend on the existance of an Edict. You may resign if yoy wish, that is this collegium's internal affair, but you ARE its legitimate leader by election.

If you do resign though, then the procedures of this collegium should be followed in this case and new elections be made in the manner specified by the bylaws.



Sal.

I was elected as "co-leader".

If forced to be a solitary leader I resign. I feel this is illegal considering my election as co-leader and against my wishes.


Again, it is your right amice. You must do what you feel best. In that case the only course of action is for the Collegium to start new elections. Then if the elected representative of the collegium believes that government intervention is necessary to change the bylaws, I will be the first to support it.
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